David Hines (hradzka) wrote,
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books to make my flist's heads explode: John Ringo

Lately, some folks on my f-list have been looking at Lord King Bad profic. brown_betty gave us LEOPARD LORD, and cereta reviewed THE SHEIK, and burger_eater pointed me to Smart Bitches, Trashy Books's take on Shayla Black's DECADENT. These books, it should be admitted, are deeply awful, and as portrayals of their authors' ids, they're more than a little alarming. You don't want to look, but you can't look away. The awfulness becomes sublime.

So why am I commenting about this? Well, because I feel a little like Richard Dreyfuss in JAWS, during the scar scene: "I got that beat. I got that beat."

Permit me to introduce John Ringo.

Contains excerpts of fiction revolving heavily around 1) rape and 2) whores. If you're bothered by this kind of thing, YOU REALLY DO NOT WANT TO READ ABOUT THIS. Even though it's so bad it's funny.Collapse )
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Like you, I read Kildar first, and then went back for the rest. My brother and a friend both told me not to, and I kinda wish I had listened.

When I worked in a library, I read Bernard Cornwell's Richard Sharpe series. I told my romance-story-reading colleagues that this was guy-romances: Guy meets girl, guy kill Frenchmen, guy loses girl, guy kills more Frenchmen, guy finds girl & boinks her, guy kills more Frenchmen. Girl leaves guy or dies off-camera before the next book. Rinse, repeat.

So, I figured Paladin of Shadows is more of the same, just substitute terrorists for French soldiers. Not quite, it seems. I like the building a kingdom as well as sex & violence, just like you do. Er, the reading of same, that is.

I do like Katya-as-the-same-as-Mike, but she's prety scary. I'm kinda rooting for the teenager who wants to be his Kildara, and queen of the valley.

Ghost was pretty disturbing of itself, though the "scene" scenes (phone calls to moms) were quite funny in a twisted way.

Final comment: Ringo has also written the sex-free "Princess of wands" which features an honest-to-Gosh church lady who becomes a demonslayer like Buffy. In short, a paladin like most people would think of one. The friend who tried to warn me off of "Ghost" has suggested that maybe it is Ringo's attempt at penance.
Y'know, I used to be somewhat interested in BDSM. After this, not so much...

Actually, yeah, I still am. But I'm still only interested in rape insofar as how it can be removed from society. John Ringo had better made a big donation to the Helen Bamber Foundation, that's for sure.
Yeaaaah... I've read these. You win. My halfway guilty giggling reaction halfway OH JOHN RINGO NO! reaction was not enough to get me to stop reading this series... all of it... but it WAS enough for me to hope my mother never, ever finds out. Or my sister. And she reads trashy romance novels. I also liked Katya quite a bit, as a, if not sane, at least nuts-in-the-opposite-direction character. The bit where Mike could, if he wishes to, literally control the freaking world by using the blackmail material he now has stored away, frightens me. And then the thing with Gretchen... wtf? Sudden massive change much? And then, of course, she fucking dies. OF course. oh john ringo no. no no no. Then again, character development! er, kinda. I want a shirt, but then I would have to explain it, and how I know it, and... yeah, guilty pleasures are not something I'm gonna wear on a shirt, no matter how awesome the shirt is. Major props for the charity idea, though. I also think I feel a little better about the whole thing knowing that John Ringo himself does seem to get the whole OH JOHN RINGO NO-ness of it.

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April 3 2010, 05:51:49 UTC 10 years ago

JRs stuff is military (or paramilitary) porn. Like all military porn it's written for wannabees, usually by wannabees. Ghost is uniquely offensive in it's portrayal of women, but other than that no worse than Tom Clancy's verbal fellation of American missile systems. I think Clancy would like to write what Ringo writes but doesn't dare. Also, unlike Clancy, Ringo has at least been in the military, albiet he was only a corporal. If you ever meet him and want to exact revenge for the head-pounding experience of reading Ghost, ask him how he got his CIB. Especially if you're a woman. Especially especially if you're <a HREF="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Campbell>Kim Campbell</a>
I just don't understand how the hero who is a rapist (BUT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE HE CONTROLS IT KIND OF) is a thing that happens more than once with John Ringo.
*grins*

I was looking for information about the Somerset folk song, 'Oh No John' tonight, and Google suggested this page.

*is highly amused*
I have tried reading this post a few times now and I still can't get all the way through it, but I felt I should comment anyway on how much I adore that it exists.
I just want to say this is still one of my favourite book reviews ever.
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