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brief movie update

June 9th, 2008 (11:02 pm)

Went to the movies last night; caught IRON MAN (the second time) and KUNG FU PANDA. The latter was a surprise: it had looked *dreadful* in the trailers, but actually wasn't bad; the script had some nice touches, and the animation -- particularly the sense of movement -- was really quite delightful. It'd be a good basis for a cartoon series, actually; there are enough characters that a series could feature a few of them per episode and get a good mix of stuff, and bounce between comedy and action pretty easily. The cast'd be too expensive, of course, but get some skilled voice actors and you're good to go. Actually, skilled voice actors would probably be an improvement.

IRON MAN the second time around was interesting. I noticed something...

Anybody else notice that all the bad guys in the movie have big-ass rings?

No, not just the terrorists; they're the Ten Rings, after all, and they're widely theorized to be the subordinates of the Mandarin, who would be awesome and thoroughly logical to be the villain in the sequel. (My pick for part III's baddie, incidentally, is Fin Fang Foom; an IRON MAN trilogy would work great with E.E. Smithian, LENSMAN-style villains -- i.e., the sort of big bad whose menace is incalculable until they're eradicated, at which point it turns out that they were merely a front for an even *bigger* bad whose menace is TWICE as incalculable as the previous lot, and so forth.) As everybody noticed, the terrorist baddies both wear big-ass rings and fiddle with them prominently, the better to draw our attention to them. What I didn't notice until the second viewing is that Obadiah Stane wears a big-ass ring, too; you can see it well in the scene where he has Tony paralyzed.

As liviapenn and others have noted, the big hole in the movie is that there is no earthly reason for Stane to kill Tony Stark; certainly not to kill him when he does. If, however, he's working for the Mandarin, then maybe there's an explanation. The Mandarin could have ordered him to do it. As to why, or why the Mandarin would play one hand against the other, you got me.

Okay, further fanwanking: maybe the whole thing was the Mandarin's idea. He ordered Stane to put a hit on Tony, knowing Stane would farm the work out, with the best candidates, given circumstances, being the Mandarin's own guys. To whom the Mandarin gave his own orders, all the while expecting to sacrifice their lives, on the theory that Tony Stark, with his life at stake, would come up with *something* to escape. Something brilliant. Something that the Mandarin might find useful.

Okay, it doesn't make real-world sense, but it makes decent comic book sense, doesn't it? In a way.

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Posted by: HJ (hjcallipygian)
Posted at: June 10th, 2008 10:03 am (UTC)

That's excellent comic-book logic, actually.

Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: June 12th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)

Thanks. Be interesting to see how it shakes out, eh?

Posted by: HJ (hjcallipygian)
Posted at: June 12th, 2008 01:11 am (UTC)

Absolutely.

Also interesting to see how they take the directing in the film. This film was enjoyable to me because they didn't break my personal number one rule for action films: don't zoom in too close. I hate action sequences when they zoom in too close to really get a feel for the action. Two good examples I can site off the top of my head is Batman Begins (the fight in the train at the end) and The Bourne Supremacy (all fights).

Posted by: Jayman (smjayman)
Posted at: June 10th, 2008 01:43 pm (UTC)

Interview with Jon Favreau where he mentions the Ten Rings and a few other things of note, including IRON MAN 2:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/ironmannews.php?id=7297

Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: June 12th, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
tony stark

Thanks for the link.

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