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Free Nevis!

March 29th, 2009 (12:35 pm)

So I found a random link to information about the island of Nevis, in the West Indies, as a place that'd be worth "Free State Projecting." If you've never heard of the "Free State Project," it was an attempt a few years ago by libertarians to move, en masse, to some state with a small population and start voting as a block for smaller government and greater liberty. Because, as you know, if there's one thing libertarians do well, it's *party unity.* The project promptly shot itself in the foot, of course: the final vote came down to New Hampshire and Wyoming, and the East Coasties who predominated in the voting picked New Hampshire. Whereupon the Wyoming faction (personalized by Kenneth W. Royce, who wrote a gloriously terrible Free State Project novel under the name "Boston T. Party"), told 'em to go screw and started their own Free State Project, which --

Y'know, it's not surprising that the Libertarians don't get anywhere, is it?

(The other problem with the Free State Project, of course, is that it depends on positively motivated ideological action, as opposed to its inverse, which is where people flee a state such as California or New York when taxes and regulation get too bothersome, settle in a less-regulated, more affordable place... and promptly vote in the kind of politicians who led 'em to flee their previous locale. Ask Colorodoans or Nevadans how they feel about their California influx.)

Anyway. Nevis. I've thought for a while that it would be quite feasible for a modestly-sized military force to seize control of an island nation or two. Frederick Forsythe famously bankrolled that attempt by mercenaries to take over Equatorial Guinea (which, to be fair, could only have been an *improvement* over that nation's government at the time), but if you're just looking to conquer territory, and you have money and men, you could pretty much take your pick of a lot of places. Especially now that the major nations who might be inclined to stop you are busy with 1) military commitments of their own and 2) economic crises. Cuba would be the Great Dream, of course, but that'd get you too much heat; an ambitious Napoleon could make a serious play for Hispaniola, though, particularly the Haitian side, and some of the smaller Caribbean islands probably would be easy conquests. And there are security companies who could probably pull it off. (C'mon, the guy who runs Blackwater -- er, I guess it's called Xe, now -- has his own *zeppelin.* Nevis only has ten thousand people. Blackwater, maybe Erinys, could take it in an afternoon.) Somebody's going to try it sometime. In a movie, if nowhere else.

I started looking at Nevis, out of curiosity, to find out what the gun laws there are like. I love America too much to leave it, but Nevis did sound like a nice vacation spot. And I saw a horrifying article:

CHARLESTOWN, Nevis - PRESIDENT of Cheryl Andrews Marketing Company (CAMC), Cheryl Andrews and her husband John appeared in the Charlestown Magistrate’s Court today (Jan. 20) following charges in relation to possession of illegal firearms and ammunition.

The couple, who were charged on Thursday, January 15, was not remanded after defence attorney Oral Martin petitioned Magistrate Yasmin Clarke to allow them to make application for their case to be heard in the High Court. This will likely be made tomorrow (Wednesday).

The Andrews were arrested at their Hamilton Estate home last week after a search of the premises unearthed one .22 rifle, 323 rounds of .22 ammunition, one BB rifle, and a pack of BB pellets.

CAMC is said to be South Florida’s largest public relations firm and is recognised throughout the travel and hospitality industries. Andrews was also recognised as one among the Hospitality Sales and Marketing Association International (HSMAI) “Top 25 Most Extraordinary Minds” in 2007.

Good grief. I have more .22 rounds than that in my *range bag.*



Posted by: silk_noir (silk_noir)
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 05:18 pm (UTC)

Those damn BB guns--

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 06:25 pm (UTC)
Fantasia cubana

About that Cuban fantasy ...

It's been a long time since I saw the anecdote in print (perhaps the military historians among your readers can pin it down), but as I recall, it went like this: Following the Bay of Pigs fiasco, two of JFK's cabinet secretaries who had not been consulted during the planning of the effort because they held domestic secretaryships (Agriculture, Commerce, whatever) told him he could have avoided the whole calamitous mess if he had spoken to them beforehand. Because they had served as Marines in the Pacific theater during World War II, they would have told him what successfully invading an island held by an opposing military force required.

What I can't recall was whether they were the ones who made the point to JFK that if he had seen an outline map of Cuba drawn on a transparency overlaid on an outline map of Iwo Jima drawn to the same scale, he would have cancelled the operation on the spot.

As Wikipedia states about Cuba, "The main island of Cuba constitutes most of the nation's land area or 105,006 km2 (40,543 sq mi) and is the seventeenth-largest island in the world by land area. The second largest island in Cuba is the Isla de la Juventud (Isle of Youth) in the southwest, with an area of 3,056 km2 (1,180 sq mi). Cuba has a total land area of 110,860 km2 (42,803 sq mi)."

As Wikipedia states about Iwo Jima: "The island has an approximate area of 21 km² (8 mi²)...."

Do the math.


Posted by: stalkere (stalkere)
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 07:15 pm (UTC)

Gotta love those alarmist writers.
323 rounds of .22 - wow.
I could burn through that on a sunny Sunday afternoon and pull out another brick of 500...
I hope they never search my house, they'll all have aneurysms...

Posted by: Sara LaKali (sara_lakali)
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 08:51 pm (UTC)

Something about this makes me strongly suspect that, for whatever reason, the authorities were looking for and expecting to find something much more than a .22, a BB gun and related ammo.

Just for those of us that are total n00bs when it comes to firearms, how many rounds are in an average box that one would find at say, Wal-Mart?

Posted by: Richard D. Fox (rdfox)
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 10:01 pm (UTC)

For .22LR, the most common ".22" out there, about 500. That's a $10 box, by the way. (Hell, the first time I ever went out to a range, I rented a nice Ruger .22 target pistol, and they *gave* me--free!--about 250 rounds of ammo from a half-used box they needed to use up, since it couldn't be sold now.)

Centerfire rounds, as opposed to the rimfire rounds used in .22LR, tend to be about 50 per box, at about the same price per box.

Posted by: Sara LaKali (sara_lakali)
Posted at: March 30th, 2009 04:04 am (UTC)

That's kind of what I thought.

Man, those cops must be pissed that they didn't find anything bigger. That's a pretty pathetic charge to lay on someone. Ooo, we found a gun for killing chipmunks and a half-empty box of ammo. Oh, and a gun for chasing off cats, too.

Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)

It depends on what kind of ammo you're buying. As Richard notes, folks regularly buy .22 in huge boxes, but the higher-quality ammo you would get in smaller boxes, for a little higher cost. Still, el cheaperoonie. .22 cartridges are teeny, too, so they have a way of turning up in odd places; you know you're a gun nut when you turn the sofa cushions and you find loose change and a couple of .22LR rounds...

.22 is not a self-defense round, unless you're desperate -- it'll kill somebody, but it won't stop 'em immediately. It's for plinking tin cans with.

Posted by: Sara LaKali (sara_lakali)
Posted at: March 30th, 2009 04:11 am (UTC)

It makes me wonder what was so damn illegal. As you say, .22s are really only good for target practice. And a BB gun? Really?

Posted by: trinfaneb (trinfaneb)
Posted at: March 29th, 2009 11:28 pm (UTC)

"McBain" comes pretty close to your scenario.


Also a Seal Team 6 training exercise Richard Marcinko writes about in "Rogue Warrior" hits pretty close to your scenario.


Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: March 30th, 2009 08:01 pm (UTC)

The Free State Project didn't fail, though admittedly, it didn't meet initial expectations. The plan was to have 20,000 signers by 2006 and that didn't happen.

The goal of moving 20,000 people is still on, and movers are still migrating every day.

You're also incorrect in the assumption that the goal of the FSP movers is to vote for smaller government. There are many of use who believe the system itself, not the policy the system is directed by, is the problem. Activism there includes creation of media, civil disobedience, networking, theater and yes, the voting and politicing thing.

700 people have moved, more join each week. New Hampshire is still one of the most free places in the USA. The libertarian population growns every week. Granite Staters don't have to find a libertarian event to interact with other libertarians. Is this going on where you are?


Posted by: Grey Bard (grey_bard)
Posted at: March 31st, 2009 03:12 am (UTC)

Oh, man. I just found this book that I really suspect you'll love.

"How to Stage a Military Coup." No really. It is this awesome combination of knowledgable and slyly matter of fact of the history and tactics of the modern military coup. In between the historical facts and the practical analysis, it has such brilliant features as using a step by step imaginary coup of the modern British government to set the stage for each chapter and a Do-It-Yourself Coup Justification formletter.


I was laughing out loud in the subway at this one, and I must have seriously freaked out any neighbors who took a look at what I was reading...

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