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July 24th, 2009 (12:08 pm)

via gun blog Say Uncle, the FN FiveseveN's capabilities just keep getting more and more impressive:

Authorities have noticed an increase in high-caliber weapons in Los Angeles. One of the most startling incidents was when a Fabrique National 57, an assault pistol used to kill big game, was found in a victim's car by detectives investigating a double-homicide last year in North Hollywood.

"You use it on large lions, tigers and bears," said LAPD Deputy Chief Michel Moore, commander of the Valley Bureau.


*wipes eyes*

This is an FN 5.7x28 mm cartridge.

This is a tiger.

The Deputy Chief of the LAPD is either really ignorant about guns or thinks reporters are. He's right about the latter, anyway; if the article's author knew absolutely anything about guns she would have fallen over laughing. It's pretty much the equivalent of claiming that a 1964 VW bug is what you use to race in the Indy 500.


"Crap, that bear's coming for us! You loaded for grizzly, Mike?"

"Sure! Got my .22 rifle right here!"

"Aw, crap.")


Posted by: Vvalkyri (vvalkyri)
Posted at: July 24th, 2009 05:29 pm (UTC)

round picture doesn't show scale... what size is right for large bears?

Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: July 24th, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC)

There's a scale! At the far right of the cartridges is a Zippo lighter.

what size is right for large bears?

AIEEE GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE. That's my preference, anyway.

Folks who've done it say you want heavy bullets over .35 caliber, so with a handgun you'd be looking at the big revolvers, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt and up. I can't see hunting bear with a handgun, personally. Gimme a rifle, at least .45-70 Gummint.

A late friend had a doozy of a story about a bear: he was helping out at a scout camp when a trouble-making bear that had been presumed to be relatively small and inoffensive turned out to be a rather large and irritable grizzly. Which charged them. He still had nightmares, maybe thirty years later, about the bear charging, only in the dreams his feet were in pails that had been filled with concrete.

(The day was saved by an old fart -- a local, I believe -- who had joined the posse with a double rifle he had left over from an African safari, something ungodly like a .450 Nitro Express. None of their other weapons fazed the grizzly, but the old fart's first shot caused it to sit up, looking very startled, and his second shot dropped it when it started to come forward again. All eyes turned to the old fart, who said reverently, "God damn. Ain't never had to shoot nothin' twice with this before.")

Posted by: Vvalkyri (vvalkyri)
Posted at: July 24th, 2009 06:04 pm (UTC)

Oh! didnt realize that was a lighter!

Posted by: Drooling Fan Girl (droolfangrrl)
Posted at: July 24th, 2009 09:31 pm (UTC)


Posted by: Jayman (smjayman)
Posted at: July 25th, 2009 02:19 am (UTC)

Word on the street is that 12ga shotgun slugs are useful in that situation as well.

Posted by: The Warped One (cordova829)
Posted at: July 24th, 2009 05:39 pm (UTC)

I think they were using http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg18-e.htm as a reference guide.

Posted by: Persephone (persephone_kore)
Posted at: July 24th, 2009 10:32 pm (UTC)

So what does this guy think you use on small lions, tigers, and bears?

(Oh my.)

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: July 25th, 2009 02:04 pm (UTC)
Dead Brain Cells

Thanks man, reading that quote on my RSS this morning killed off far more than my daily quota of brain cells. I think the splitting headache I'm getting is my poor gray matter screaming while it dies.


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