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October 19th, 2004 (12:19 pm)

It is well known that Jews constitute the most privileged “minority” group in this country. Among the top 10 universities, Jews enjoy shocking overrepresentation: Only the California Institute of Technology has an undergraduate Jewish population below 10 percent, and four schools have particularly stark Jewish advantages—Harvard (30 percent), Yale (23 percent), UPenn (31 percent) and Columbia (25 percent). Keep in mind that, at best estimate, no more than 3 percent of all Americans are Jewish.

In his slim volume The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering (2000), Jewish-American historian Norman Finkelstein argues that American interest in Judaism is “a tribute not to Jewish suffering but to Jewish aggrandizement.” The holocaust label, he says, arose from the real suffering of European Jews during the 1930s and 1940s, in turn giving rise to the Holocaust ideology, distinguished in its capitalization. He documents economic exploitation by this “Holocaust Industry,” which he calls an “outright extortion racket.”

The Arab News? Lebanon's Daily Star? Nope. That's a column from Duke University's student newspaper, The Chronicle.

Jew-hate isn't coming from the same old comfortable direction any more, folks. Watch yourselves.


Posted by: Vvalkyri (vvalkyri)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 09:37 am (UTC)

can I copy paste the whole thing?

Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 09:40 am (UTC)


Posted by: Vvalkyri (vvalkyri)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 09:43 am (UTC)

I've been reading through the replies. I like the third one, but it's 800 char too long to include here.

Posted by: Danielle Leigh (danielleleigh)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 09:37 am (UTC)

wow. that makes me pretty ill.

I don't even know what to do with THAT insanity....thank god that all the replies on the site take the author to task.

(and wait, because people are often obviously racist against African-Americans, that means the Jews therefore...are whiners? Does this argument make sense? To anyone?)

Posted by: Mara (marag)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 09:40 am (UTC)
Bite me by jyorraku

::sigh:: The eternal problem of being a minority: Damned if you succeed, damned if you don't.

I especially like the train of thought here:

1) Jews are massively overrepresented in top schools, based on their percentage in the population.
2) Jews capitalize on the memory of the Holocaust for economic gain.

::head tilt:: Huh? Did I miss something here?

Right. Logic, that's what I'm missing.

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Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 11:49 am (UTC)

Ahem. Meet the author.

He's a dedicated member of the progressive Left and an honored student journalist, and he feels secure enough in his opinion to advance it in a university newspaper.

As I said: it's not coming from the same comfortable direction any more.

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Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: October 20th, 2004 12:59 am (UTC)

I'm sorry, Sarah, but I grew up Jewish in North Carolina and have lived in Florida for more than four years now. Trust me when I say that I know very well what traditional Southern anti-Semitism looks like. This is not it.

It's not the geography. It's the motivating ideology that scares the crap out of me.

Posted by: a veteran pseudo-fictioneer (skalja)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 07:41 pm (UTC)
jaded archie

Damn those Jews! What we need is a quota for Jews (and all other minorities) in top schools, so that there can only be as many in the student body as there are in the US population, proportionally.

Ye gods, I'm frightened. And what do you want to bet that this guy took Finkelstein's words completely out of context?

Posted by: a veteran pseudo-fictioneer (skalja)
Posted at: October 19th, 2004 07:52 pm (UTC)

So apparently Finkelstein's quote isn't necessarily so out of context ... but then, there's this gem from the comments:

"I am glad you have the courage to stand up to the Jews. I agree with everything in your article, except you pointed out that the holocaust is a fact, when in reality what happenned is still open for debate."

Posted by: mystavash (mystavash)
Posted at: October 20th, 2004 05:48 am (UTC)

Hm... Is it really such a big thing? This being Jewish or not being Jewish. I'm not too familiar with organized religion. ^.^;;

3% of the population but 30% of Harvard, that IS a big difference, especially considering the supposed diversity at Harvard. But it's a religion, so I bet it's one of those false correlations. I can't see the stiffs at Harvard picking people based on religion. What if you took a census of all the *wealthy* Americans, how many would be Jewish then? I wonder if that would skew things.

And I dunno about this Southern guy Southern school thing. I'm a minority in several ways, grew up in Florida, and went to a 'southern' school. I think I may have to take offense that there is more anti-anything in a Southern school than a Western or a yankee school.

I don't think there's anything to be scared about. :) You're probably just being silly too. It's just hard for the author to understand how Jews can say they're an oppressed minority in the States (do they say that? I don't pay attention to these things...) when African Americans have so many more obstacles. He would probably even look at your sheer sensitivity to the column and think of it as proof. Just because he's a scholar doesn't mean that people agree with his views, it just means that he's smart.

Of course, what do I know? :) I just like being Devil's Advocate. The one time David tried to explain to me about Israel and Palestine, I completely tuned him out after the first 30 seconds. ^.^

Posted by: bamboocity (bamboocity)
Posted at: October 21st, 2004 10:48 pm (UTC)
Harvard isn't the best example...

Because Harvard has legacy admissions the student sample there is skewed toward the children of former students. One Jewish alumnus could help the admission chances of multiple children, grandchildren, etc. On the other hand, MIT prides itself on not having legacy admissions. I'd be curious to see how its student breakdown differs.

Of course, I suspect that any cohort (is that the correct term?) that regularly places a high value on education will be over-represented in any top-tier college or university.

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