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December 14th, 2004 (02:37 pm)

New Batman trailer, high resolution Quicktime.


Posted by: PROBE UNIVERSE (liviapenn)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 07:42 pm (UTC)
batman: arkham mirror

They're *really* playing up the Qui-Gon Zen warrior mentor man played by Liam Neeson / Bruce relationship, aren't they?

*is vaguely nervous*

No Katie Holmes in the trailer-- I'm not sure if *that* makes me even more nervous or not.

Is it June yet?

How about now?

Posted by: PROBE UNIVERSE (liviapenn)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 07:54 pm (UTC)
batman: zen bruce

to clarify what I am nervous about:

"Qui-Gon sat in lotus position on the cold rock gazing out at the landscape of whatever country he was in. How many years had it been since he had fallen through the strange plot device portal and landed on this pre-spaceflight-world! Using the Force would only lead to fear and suspicion among the natives, therefore he had disguised himself as a zen master warrior dude and taken on worthy students, hoping to pass on at least some of the Jedi training that had allowed him to not actually die in Phantom Menace, NO SHUT UP, HE DIDN'T DIE. Then in a convenient segue, his thoughts drifted to Bruce! Bruce was sooooo cute. And surely could have been a Jedi with the right training, but maybe it was better that he never COULD be a Jedi, because Qui-Gon could like totally feel the deep dark angst inside him, like, the DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE, and it was all INTENSE AND SCARY and like a vortex of *sexy*. Yes, sexy! He had to admit it! And luckily since Bruce wasn't his padawan there was no, like, reason why they couldn't totally make out! But Qui-Gon was, like, *really nervous* about approaching Bruce, because what would Bruce ever see in a grizzled old guy like Qui-Gon?"

Then Obi-Wan shows up to rescue Qui-Gon but Qui-Gon is like "You're doing a great job training the boy! I'm gonna stay here." and Obi-Wan is like "IT'S BECAUSE OF HIM ISN'T IT!" and he's all JEALOUS and Qui-Gon is all shocked 'cause of his totally not out of character self-esteem problem.

And at some point Obi-Wan CRIES. And Bruce is like "OMG, I could never come between your love, because I have to devote myself to my loneliness and live in a cave and stuff," and Obi-Wan is like "THAT IS SO SAD, OMG, you have to at least have a threesome with us before you go do that," and Bruce is like, "well, okay."

Andtheyhavesex. THE END.

THERE. I wrote it. Now no one else has to.

(My icon has never been so fitting. Well, except for the santa hat.)

Posted by: PROBE UNIVERSE (liviapenn)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 07:56 pm (UTC)
harley: sane

Oh, and I think that should be the title, too-- "Come Between Your Love," because it combines the essential qualities of schmoop and total stupidity.

Posted by: David Hines (hradzka)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 08:00 pm (UTC)
archie skull

THERE. I wrote it. Now no one else has to.

Oh, no. Someone else will. Many, many, many someone elses.

Why, some of them may even write it three or four times.

Posted by: Mara (marag)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 08:22 pm (UTC)
Bruce  broods

Only four? Don't be ridiculous. I expect some people to do nothing for months at a time except write it.

That is, assuming that Batman movieverse acquires a fic crowd. Not every movie does.

Posted by: PROBE UNIVERSE (liviapenn)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 08:36 pm (UTC)
dc: grace choi (a dangerous idea)

The previous Batman movies haven't (even with the Chris O'Donnell/Val Kilmer/*Joel Shumacher* slash trifecta) but I really do worry about the Liam Neeson As Mentor To Younger Hottie Character Effect.

Especially since in the trailer he keeps growling about things that are deep inside Bruce. A girl gets ideas. *G*

Posted by: Mara (marag)
Posted at: December 14th, 2004 08:48 pm (UTC)
Bruce  broods

Yes, the trailer does make it look like this movie is going to be slashy like a really slashy thing, doesn't it? Well, it'll be interesting to see if any fic appears at all.

Can they create a Batman compelling enough to draw us all away from the comicverse and toonverse? (He's certainly *hot* enough, but that doesn't guarantee fic and it certainly doesn't guarantee good fic.)

Posted by: PROBE UNIVERSE (liviapenn)
Posted at: December 15th, 2004 06:35 am (UTC)
nightwing: so damn pretty

Even when people write Batman movieverse fic that is actually, you know, *good* and *well-written* and in-character for the movies, it never seems quite right to me, because I just can't experience the movies as their own separate universe; I'm always fixated on how different the movies are from the comics (I had the same problem with Smallville at first; I couldn't get *into* their Clark. He was cute and all, but he just wasn't *Clark Kent!* But repeat exposure, the likes of which you don't get with a feature film, took care of that...) and how simplistic the histories and characterizations have become.

That may actually make them *simpler* to write well... I mean, if I had to write Bruce/Selina but could choose which universe, I'd probably first pick movieverse, then animated-series-verse, then comicsverse, just because I've seen *all the movieverse canon*, 95% of the toonverse canon and... I was discussing Selina's time with Ted Grant last night with angisageek and I realized I'm still not entirely solid on the *basic facts* of comicsverse Selina's timeline. ("Is it prostitution / Ted / more prostitution / Catwoman? Or prostitution / Catwoman / Ted / Less likely to get her ass kicked Catwoman?" Etc.)

But while a closed universe with less canon craziness than the DC universe is certainly easier to write, to me it just never *feels* like the real thing.

(If you're interested, though, Jane Mailander wrote an absolutely *scorching* Bruce/Dick based on the movie. It was zine-published, but I think now it's available in PDF format somewhere online.)

Posted by: Mara (marag)
Posted at: December 15th, 2004 12:16 pm (UTC)
Tim climbs in

Hmm. I *started* fic writing in X-Men movieverse, so for a long time movieverse was my base and comics were what I used to add verisimilitude ;) To an extent, I did the same thing with DC: I started with toonverse and moved into the comics. So, they're equally "real" to me.

I wonder why X-Men movieverse brought in such huge numbers of new writers (a few of whom, like me, stayed and added comicverse to our repertoire) and the Spider-Man movie didn't. My husband says it's because there are more characters in the X-Men.

Anyway, yes, I do sometimes use X-Men movieverse and DC toonverse as places to write things that are just too difficult in comicverse. Bruce/Diana, for instance. Just the *thought* of writing that comicverse makes me cry, but toonverse it works happily.

Posted by: cmar_wingnut (cmar_wingnut)
Posted at: December 15th, 2004 01:01 pm (UTC)

Very well put - comics canon is like quicksand, eternally shifting. Try to build a good fic on it and you're likely to end up with something that swiftly tilts and sinks into the ground.

I love the cartoon - do not love the movies - but yeah, the comics just feel like the real thing.

In Selina's case, I vastly prefer the original comics canon: airline stewardess/amnesia victim/jewel thief. (Or should that be abused wife/jewel thief/reformed criminal and occasional crimefighter...) *sigh*

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